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VicariousE
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Apparently, I Have A Kidney Stone

Posted by VicariousE - July 15th, 2013

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The pain came on very strong within 90 minutes. I thought it was the late night chicken I put in the toaster oven (so fucking hot out, why run a big gas stove?). I pooped just a tad, but the pain above the left side of my hip persisted. Then I noticed the few drops I peed were just blood. Scary and mortifying. That was around 11:30 PM Sunday night.

I sweat profusely, like I was outside in the humidity and sunlight. Guess I'm used to strong pain, so I haven't thrown up yet, though the urge is there. Luckily, I had a full strength Vicodin pill left over from my back surgery, otherwise, I would not be able to type this now. I have some half strength stuff with acetaminophen, but I have to watch how much of it I take. These pills only last for a little while - they peak and taper off quickly.

Called my sis and she called my bro, who's had this happen 3 times before... looks like I'm breaking the family record for holding onto a stone, since the longest he had one was for 5 hours. I've had the pain for 5 hours already |:

That's what I get for sweating my testicles off outside... because I know if I come in the house to cool off and hydrate, I ain't going out again till I stop sweating, and that usually takes over 1/2 an hour.

Ow. This really sucks. Hope this passes. It's just past 4:30AM. I really don't want to have to ask the neighbor to bring me to the hospital I can't afford.
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5:30pm - Oh this fucker burns man!!!
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Just after midnight... pain stopped. Didn't realize it, even as I managed to sit down and watch canned content, without severe discomfort. Didn't want to jinx it, so I finished watching, then went downstairs to pee in a cup. And I did! Caught some bits of stone, and the rest of the urine went into the john. Had I known how little urine I was holding, I would've drank more, but I guess I sweated most of it out :|

Hopefully, that's the end of this insanely painful and paralytic saga. Almost a full 24 hours of internal pain.
To anyone who's gotten kicked in the kidneys or the testicles: felt like both and then some.
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HOPEFULLY, THE LAST WORD ON THE SUBJECT: Almost precisely 6 days after the first signs, I guess I passed a solid chunk of stone, while taking a healthy tinkle. Halfway through weeing, there was a noticeable restriction, like someone ran over my garden hose! Definitely felt something GTFO, binging off the sides of my urethra.

That pesky thing was hiding out this whole time!!! The rock basically shed some of its parts, to appear as though it had left my body. Took me completely by surprise. This is what I get for watching too many sci-fi and submarine movies - a piece of rock that knows the art of war O_O Hope I can spot this little bastard in the ceramic bowl.

Got tough stains in the toilet? Try using a false teeth cleaning, fizzy tablet.

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PoisonHeart

you been drinking yer water? if you have been getting those tasty liters, or at least a few cups throughout the day, then you may need to take a closer look at the water you drink. heavy mineral deposits, or in some cases, deficiencies...can cause stones.

Since you have them now, you could google some feelgood remedy...the body is so complex and there are very many kinds of even just kidney stones, so I wouldn't advise doing anything weird to further upset the balance of your body like eating a bucket of lemons or something.

just make sure that you are trying to drink all the water you can stomach as long as possible. it will grow if it stays, 5 hours without any symptoms? Drink that fucking water man or you'll regret it.

obviously, aspirin will reduce the inflammation, but most important is to avoid alcohol and drink all the water you can stomach.

you may already know, but very few kidney stones require surgery. as you know, it runs in your family, which suggest a mineral deficiency. I advise taking a reasonable multi-vitamin...half of one in the morning, and the other at night....once the stone has passed.

finally, you WILL get them again unless you take preventative measures. As I says, half a multi-vitamin twice a day and ensure you are drinking water throughout the day.

Health is no laughing matter...now please excuse me, I have to smoke a cigarette.

VicariousE

I'm shocked it got through it.... with my dignity in tact (intact, with tact). Hooray for pharmaceuticals! That was my last 7.5 mg tab, but I didn't puke or call for help. Very awful 6-7 hours to be damn sure.

Were you just being a good scout and did the internet leg work for me, or is this kidney stone thing something you're personally familiar with?

Now, I'm dizzy, happy and ready to pass the fuck out, while it's still seasonable in the house - outside thermometer just hit 100 and the humidity will make it worse. So I sleep before it gets to hot in here lol

PoisonHeart

just one more thing....

please don't take my advice or anyone else's to heart, i'm sure you'll get many conflictions. and do your best to relax...i don't mean to worry you, and I hope you feel better V.

VicariousE

Hey.
Just turned 10 AM on the East coast, and I'm fine, thank the spirit in the sky and to you for asking!

The pain subsided about an hour ago, took a chance, and peed normally with no pain or blood :)

I tried drinking water normally.. and yeah the local water we got switched to recently's kinda heavy with lime I think. These stupid rocks run in on the male side of the family, on me mum's side.

My siblings were no doubt surprised it took till I was 40 to develop a kidney stone...
Surprised it didn't happen before the 4th... During my physical therapy, they put me on this machine that would shake - the idea being, your body's muscles would work trying to keep your head and body straight, kinda like an organic image stabilization system.

Dude, I was sweating and shaking so bad, the cigarette paper would just stick to my hands lol!

beastkid7

Dam, I'm glad you got through it, V. Runs in my family as well. Dreading that day. I should educate my self on how to prevent it.

VicariousE

Uh...... not through it. Thought I was, arrrgh!!!

Nothing you can do to prevent it, other than drink a lot and watch for hard water. They made us switch water supplies a few years ago, and it's full of lime.

PoisonHeart

well, you pass that thing yet? sounds like it is beginning to dissolve.

There are a few preventative things you can do in the future:

-once a day multi-vitamin helps ensure correct bonding of nutrients to prevent isolated buildup of crystalline "polyps".

-Recommended daily water consumption results in regular filtering of nutrients to also prevent isolation/buildup.

-Balanced diet creates harmony, also.

To answer your previous question, yes and no: I used Google to back me up on what I already suspected and believed. Statistics, like only 15-20% of stones will require surgery or that most pass within 4 weeks did require research.

I was a technician in a private medical center for some time, and I love fitness, so I do know a little about health. Yeah I hear you say "do u even lift bro", and you bet!

Again, the most important thing to do is avoid alcohol, and drink all the water you can hold at all times until the stone has passed into the colon at which time you should feel better.

Otherwise, it will grow. Bet your bottom dollar. if it is appearing to break down then that's a good thing, but I do really suggest making sure that not only the pain is lessening (even mildly) that you moderate urination in a controlled environment (milk jug) to watch for signs of particulates being broken down.

Again: don't mean to worry you, but you have to understand that while this is generally a low-risk incident, you are still facing serious danger and a medical professional is the only one who can help you with any kind of assurance.

Sorry this happened to ya, V.

VicariousE

I'm pretty physically active, and do hydrate as well as can be expected, but yeah, need to get some vitamins. I pretty much stopped drinking after my Ma passed away.

So a full 24 hours later, managed to stop squirming and sat down to watch the last episode of Top Gear UK when I noticed the pain was abating :) Caught some dandruff looking particles in a dixie cup, and the rest went into the toilet. Surprisingly it was clear - the thimble volumed amounts I did manage to get out were either bloody, or more often very dark yellow. Couldn't eat during the torture and did drink 4 glasses of water mixed with either soda or OJ. Hopefully there aren't anymore particulates up in the kidney left to be caught.

Now the rest of my miserable life can continue... tomorrow. Don't really feel like risking going outside my door today, only got a about 4 hours of sleep before I had to wake up an pee... not a lot of volume, but enough to feel great that I could!

Thanks for the info D, you're a really good friend :)

PoisonHeart

takes somebody to need somebody, right.

I was definitely not aware they could be passed so quickly. it can be hard to tell how well the body recovers, but if there aren't signs of blood and the pain is mostly relieved, then you know you're pretty much in the end-zone.

See, there is a problem with juices and sodas, in that we find them good but dehydrating. Still, is better than nothing, but I definitely understand many folks don't like plain water. But ah, as the expression goes: a rolling stone gathers no moss, right?

heh.

if it makes you feel any better also, i want you to know that I finished one of the major features of my AI for IRON PLAGUE...path detection. that's a triumph for me as well, I spent nearly a week....almost 8 hours a day, trying to get it down, and my god it's pretty.

trouble was that since the enemy ships direction is based on angles, it is not as simple as just moving to the left or right....up or down....more like compensate for this angle by reducing the predetermined angle to the factor that most closely represents the target angle at a rate of approximately 5 degrees per half-second until the target angle has been approximated to within 5 degrees either way. Oh, and by the way, make sure that's converted to radians, and then go ahead and determine exactly how you intend to make a literal "virtual rocket" change course based on it's current angle...

2 and a half months remain to finish the project before it's time to move.

VicariousE

So quickly?!?! Took me a full day! My brother's 6'2", maybe that's why his passed so quickly, though, with the amount of milk he drinks, I'd say he was damn lucky. Still have the urge to pee often, though not much comes out - maybe it's the body getting defensive.

Yeah, that's why I dilute everything with water - to stretch out what I got and to avoid overly sweet stuff and carbonation (uurp). The old water supply was good enough just to drink when it was cold, but I still filtered it and kept it cold, just so I could drink it straight, if need be.

Sounds like some daunting programming. Tutorials and backward-engineering can only go so far. When you get this game off the ground, I hope you make a post with all the backstory involved.

You think you'll get it all nailed down in time? Sounds like you've got some stuff boxed up already...

PoisonHeart

my understanding was that they can take up to 4 weeks. if you have to visit the restroom often, but find you are unable to go, the cue is there to drink more water imo. i mean, if you are drinking a gallon a day, then that's different story, but sounds like you should encourage the bladder, colon, and kidneys, help them recuperate after their ordedal.

dude, we are so bad about drinking soda here. we drink a 12-pack between me and the fiance in two days, one if we're watching movies.

And yeah, you're right, there comes a point when tutorials cannot help. I mean, they're great for learning 1/5 of what you need, but in the end it's like playing a chess game against myself and I'm both terrible and kicking my ass the entire time.

I have been blogging all about it over at my site: <a href="http://nsatelier.99k.org/">http://nsatelier.99k.org/</a>, but a "making of" video would be pretty sweet.

Let me grab your opinion, do you think I should convert the 2D 8-bit graphics into 3D models? I think I would have the time, and yeah I think this will get done within the three month goal...it's a push. I sleep maybe 5 hours a night.

VicariousE

It's going to be difficult. There's a lot of work right outside my door, but I guess I can pre-prepare more quantities of liquid for outside consumption.

Yeah me too, that's why I get 2 liter bottles and add the water first (to my drinking glass). Usually Coke but Pespi if it's on sale for a buck, buck and a quarter apiece.

It's hard for me to give you an objective opinion, when I'm doing the internet stuff on a 10 year old laptop... 2D should be fine.. it was fine for the first Mortal Kombat and Clayfighters. It's just a cheap and cheerful way to get the good graphics out there. Unless you want to give the player the ability to change the view, 3D shouldn't matter. Get good at one thing, put it to good use effectively, then move on to the next challenge.

PoisonHeart

man, living in Phoenix taught me about fluids. I used to get so dehydrated I thought I would pass out, then drinking a ton of coffee on top of that....wasn't uncommon for people to get nosebleeds due to the extremely arid climate.now, living in Taxes, oh sorry i mean Tex-ass, oh no i meant Heart Attex, no wait....anyway, it's extremely humid here, too. Air-quality is prety bad as well, when it rains it's like mopwater. smells like it too. And this is in the country, mind you. Drove through El Paso, skyline was yyellow @ 2PM.

seriously, as Stephen King said in The Stand, "Ashholes always travel in packs" and apparantly they all moved to Texas.

regarding the 3D stuff, mind if I send you a PM about that? don't really want to hijack your blog entry.

VicariousE

I've been to both those places, and what you say is quite spot on... mopwater indeed! Ew, why go through El Paso? I tried to get my sister to go through that town on the way to Austin, back in the 80's... it seems like it's the Chicago of the South :|

Haven't read that book in 20 years...

Yeah, sure. I'll get to it within 24 hours. Got a lawyer meeting and some other white collar disasters to attend to Wednesday :\ Probably chainsaw some stuff for the dumpster, and move iron around....

Happy-Little-Trees

i still dont know what to say :(

VicariousE

I got time enough to send a PM....

kisame

Glad that shit is over. I've had one of those. It fucking blows.

VicariousE

Yeah, every time my heart beat or I had to breathe, that shit hurt :| It's in the top 3 of worst pains a human body can ever endure, apparently. I guess a GSW would be #4 right under childbirth...

arghjustkillme

Woah! Glad to hear it's over! I had a similar experience before I had to have my appendix removed. I would get sick and want to puke and poop more than to total contents of my stomach out, just lying on the bathroom floor until the pain subsided. I was told it was just gal bladder pains and that I should watch my fat intake, so I put up with it for several years until the an ER got me a conclusive diagnosis and actually treated me.

VicariousE

So it was your gall bladder that was raising Cain? Did you have stones there? My Ma did, but they couldn't diagnose it for over 3 years :| It practically rotted away before they operated, and by then... simple protein test would've revealed it, but these medicare doctors only see revolving doors and dollar signs.

Was there any correlation between the gall bladder and appendix troubles? Undiagnosed pain is a dangerous thing. Somewhat luckily, bad kidneys run in the family, so the self diagnosis panned out.. this time. Couldn't afford an ER visit, no family around, and the neighbors are on a wonky schedule, so at home I stayed, caring the housecat no doubt.

Still feel drained from all the exertion, but the urge to pee every few minutes is passing, though I've got small muscle cramps and loose stool :\

arghjustkillme

It wasn't my gal bladder at all actually, it was my appendix swelling and displacing organs that periodically crippled me with pain for three years. Nobody else in my family had appendix troubles, good you had other data points to help you when the hospital didn't. I don't think I could have managed appendicitis myself though, for I am not a Russian doctor on a submarine (great story, Google it).

I also put up that questionnaire! See read about the story of Automachaun!

VicariousE

Oh I see! Wow, but for 3 fucking years?! My poor ma had pain for that long :(

I will check out the Russian story (in my convalescence) and the questionnaire, Glad to see you out of the shadows!

kisame

Not as bad as having your nutsack torn open.

VicariousE

That does stand to reason.... emotional bugging out on top of physical trauma, yeah... have to use a mirror to sew it back up again :P

Happy-Little-Trees

one of my dads uncles had 6 kidney stones all at once........he refused to get any type of medical help till he was forced to by my dad :P

VicariousE

Grr. I responded to this hours ago, stupid website!

Hope it was worth the huge-ass medical bill. But that's a lot of rock! Did he need surgery, or did they just dope him up and make him drink water till they all got peed out?

Tony-DarkGrave

Haha! sorry i'm not trying to be a douche but my old man just had one of those. we thought it was kidney FAILURE and he was crying and throwing up and was all dramatic, I wanted to get my phone but my mother was like NO when I arrived.

VicariousE

I couldn't fathom how much they'd charge me, just to run an ultrasound wand over my backside and to dope me up... probably enough to buy a Kia. Guessing your Pop did what mine did: suffered like animal hit by a car, then got better. My 'former-executive-now-on-the-dole ' sis wants me to save the flakes for future analysis, but I don't have free healthcare or a big monthly handout like she does :|

Yeah, I could feel the urge to dry heave, but managed not to somehow. Drama doesn't enter into it, it's just raw unfiltered pain... kinda glad no one was around when I went bibbledy. Now I feel like an old lady, wanting to piss every 1/2 hour... which is an improvement.

kisame

I had to go to the hospital. I ended up getting 46 stitches.

VicariousE (Updated )

Good Gob, who took a can opener to you?

So, if I understand you correctly, you had to have 46 stitches on ... your hacky sack? I'm anticipating a cool story bro

Tony-DarkGrave

usually in the case of kidney stones tell them your having them and request painkillers till they pass. then drink lots of water.

VicariousE

Eh, they want the bucks to pay the rent for their equipment... be nice if they took me at my word, but I'm sure they'd run test(s) before giving me anything.

Tony-DarkGrave

asked my old man he said it would be like 10-15K in medical bill but if you have decent health insurance it should cover at least 75% or all of it.

VicariousE

Health insurance seems like something I once remembered, in the distant past. When enough people had it, the hospitals could lean on the State and non-profit hand outs to treat the uninsured.

10 grand could definitely buy a new car :| And have money left over to drive to Mexico, for the same treatment at a better price lol

Tony-DarkGrave

If you don't have health insurance and are in debt already just consolidate it with a bank and pay one lump sum every month for a payment plan at a fixed rate.

VicariousE

Hmm, now I know why my grandparents buried jars of money... as I heard it recently, the people who have money deposited in banks, are 'unsecured borrowers' FDIC notwithstanding... neat, huh? Our money, turns into the banks assets, and we get to borrow our own money from them :| 1984 ain't got nothing on the 21st century.

Luckily for me, things are more or less between red and black, but my credit is kinda non-existent, since I never took out loans or a CC. Most banks wouldn't even give me an account, unless I had a passport or a CC... like my National ID driver's license and birth certificate weren't enough!

SimplyRobot

Those feelings of pain will pass.
Buh dum, tss.

VicariousE

Ah, but when? After 20 hours, I was kinda losing hope. It's not like there was a countdown timer...
Still have the urge to whizz often, but I can sleep without it being really annoying. Guess I gave the gears to my man junk a real workout... again, alone :( (call it method humor)

SimplyRobot

All jokes aside, my friend had to get a kidney stone removed via surgery. She mentioned something about how she had it broken up via lazer (might have heard that wrong), but you should ask a doctor about it. Have you already like, passed it?

VicariousE

Yeah, they got lasers and balloons, high frequency emitters... all costs real dollars though. Sorry to hear she had to go through with a procedure like that, but you leave knowing you got scanned and watched over well, so there shouldn't be any surprises down the line...

Yup, broke into several pieces that look like big flakes of dandruff.

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